Derleth as Cthulhu, Incorporating "The Call of Cthulhu" by Raymond Bayless

Elder Gods and Great Old Ones

God Terminology in Derleth's Mythos Stories

As scholars first pointed out in the 1970s (fn1), August Derleth's version of the Mythos differs significantly from that of H. P. Lovecraft by introducing a set of benign gods (fn2) who are responsible for having imprisoned the various Lovecraftian gods (such as Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, Cthulhu, and so on). August Derleth's view of the two groups of gods remained fairly consistent throughout his writings. However, his terminology for referring to these groups varied significantly over his career, most especially in his early stories.

In the majority of Derleth's best-known Mythos stories, the beneficent deities are referred to as the Elder Gods, and the malign deities are referred to primarily as the Great Old Ones or the Ancient Ones. However, in some stories, other terms are used, or the meanings of the usual terms are even reversed. The term "Ancient Ones" is especially changeable, referring to the evil gods in 15 stories, and the good gods in five stories, and the combination of both good and bad gods in a single story. The term "Great Old Ones" refers to the evil gods in 11 stories, but refers to the good gods in the early tale The Lair of the Star-Spawn and the much later The Seal of R'lyeh.

To add to the confusion, the same terms are used with varying meanings in stories by different authors. In the Cthulhu Universalis, the varied meanings for these terms are listed separately and assigned numbers.

The following list identifies the terms used for the two main groups of gods in each Derleth story. The stories are listed in rough chronological order. Each story title is followed by the dates of writing and publication, as given by John D. Haefele (fn3). After each god term, a number provides a link to the relevant sense of that term in the Cthulhu Universalis.

Story

Good Gods

Evil Gods

Combined Gods

The Thing That Walked on the Wind
(Derleth) 1931/1933 [online text]
(none)


oldĀ onesĀ (5)

 
Something from Out There
(Derleth) 1931/1951
Elder Gods (1) Ancient Ones (2)
mad genii of evil
Older Gods
 
The Horror from the Depths
(Derleth-Schorer) 1931/1940 [online text]

Elder Gods (1)
Ancient Ones (3)
Old Ones (7)

ancient genii of evil, evil genii, mad genii of evil
Evil Ones (1)
 
The Lair of the Star-Spawn
(Derleth-Schorer) 1931/1932

Ancient Ones (3)
Elder Gods (1)
Elder Ones (4)
Great Old Ones (4)
Old Ones (7)

evil ones (1)
Old Ones (5)

 
Those Who Seek
(Derleth) ?/1932
(none) (none)  
Spawn of the Maelstrom
(Derleth-Schorer) 1931/1939
Elder Gods (1) hosts of evil  
The Return of Hastur
(Derleth) 1932-33/1939
Ancient Ones (3)
Old Ones (7)
Elder Gods (1)

Evil Ones (1)

 
The Passing of Eric Holm
(Derleth) 1933/1939
(none)

Ancient Gods

 
Ithaqua
(Derleth) 1933/1941
(none) old gods
"gods old before man was born into the world"
 
The God Box
(Derleth) ?/1945
(none) (none)  
The Sandwin Compact
(Derleth) 1935?/1940
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Gods
Ancient Ones (2)

Ancient Ones (4)
Beyond the Threshold
(Derleth) 1941/1941
"old gods of ancient good" Ancient Ones (2)
elder beings
elemental forces of evil
 
The House on Curwen Street
(Derleth) 1943-44/1944
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)
Great Old Ones (3)

 
The Dweller in Darkness
(Derleth) 1944/1944
Elder Gods (1)

Great Old Ones (3)
Old Ones (5)

 
The Watcher from the Sky
(Derleth) 1944-45/1945

Ancient Ones (3)
Elder Gods (1)
Elder Ones (4)

Great Old Ones (3)

 
The Lurker at the Threshold
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1944/1945
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)
Great Old Ones (3)
Old Ones (5)

 
The Gorge Beyond Salapunco
(Derleth) 1946/1949
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)
Great Old Ones (3)

 
Something in Wood
(Derleth) 1946-47/1948
Elder Gods (1)

Great Old Ones (3)

 
The Whippoorwills in the Hills
(Derleth) 1947/1948
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)
Great Old Ones (3)
Old Ones (5)

 
The Keeper of the Key
(Derleth) 1951/1951
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)

 
The Black Island
(Derleth) 1951/1952
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)
Great Old Ones (3)

 
The House in the Valley
(Derleth) ?/1953 [online text]
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)
Great Old Ones (3)

 
The Survivor
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1953-54/1954 [online text]
ancient Gods
Elder Gods (1)

Old Ones (5)

 
The Gable Window
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1954-54/1957 [online text]
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)

 
The Seal of R'lyeh
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1954/1957 [online text]

Elder Gods (1)
Great Old Ones (4)

Ancient Ones (2)

 
The Lamp of Alhazred
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) ?/1957 [online text]
(none)

Ancient Ones (2)
Great Old Ones (3)

 
The Peabody Heritage
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) ?/1957
(none) (none)  
The Shadow Out of Space
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) ?/1957
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)
Great Old Ones (3)

 
Wentworth's Day
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) ?/1957
(none) (none)  
The Fisherman of Falcon Point
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1958/1959
(none) (none)  
The Shuttered Room
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1958/1959
(none) (none)  
Witches' Hollow
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1962?/1962
Elder Gods (1)

Ancient Ones (2)

 
The Shadow in the Attic
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) ?/1964
(none) (none)  
The Dark Brotherhood
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) ?/1966
(none) (none)  
The Horror from the Middle Span
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1967/1967
(none) (none)  
Innsmouth Clay
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1971/1971
(none) (none)  
The House in the Oaks
(Howard-Derleth) 1971/1971
(none) (none)  
The Watchers Out of Time
("Lovecraft"-Derleth) 1971/1974
(none) (none)  

It is striking that these terms are used less and less in Derleth's later Mythos tales. Of the last ten stories, only one mentions the good and evil gods. One possible explanation is that Derleth was becoming uncomfortable with his own system, perhaps because his own views had evolved. More probably, he realized that readers of the later stories would already have some familiarity with Mythos lore. Or he might have changed his views about how to write this type of story effectively.

Footnotes

fn1. Tierney, Richard L., "The Derleth Mythos"(1972) and Mosig, Dirk, "H. P. Lovecraft: Myth-Maker" (1976), reprinted in S.T. Joshi (ed.), Dissecting Cthulhu: Essays on the Cthulhu Mythos. Lakeland, FL: Miskatonic River Press, 2011. Tierney's essay is also available in Schweitzer, Darrell (ed.), Discovering H.P. Lovecraft. Wildside Press. Kindle Edition.

fn2. By "deities" or "gods" I am referring to the more powerful entities in the Mythos (Yog-Sothoth, Azathoth, Nyarlathotep, etc.), that are commonly worshipped by less powerful species such as the Deep Ones, Outer Ones, and the spawn of Cthulhu. I am aware that some scholars believe these entities should not be referred to as "gods," at least not in Lovecraft's own work.

fn3. Haefele, John D. A Look Behind the Derleth Mythos: Origins of the "Cthulhu Mythos". The Cimmerian Press: 2014.


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